Ep 19: How to Build a Career in Cannabis: Trust, Growth & Ownership at HQ — The Shift

with Vedrana Pavicevic · The Shift, a podcast by Headquarters

Discover how HQ turns curiosity, reliability, and ownership into real career growth while helping shape the future of cannabis, together.

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0:08 So today's guest is someone I know very well and someone who probably understands HQ from more angles than anyone else in the company. She works closely with our CEO as his personal assistant, but her role goes

0:28 far beyond that. She manages multiple projects, collaborates with different departments, and has had a front row seat to how decisions are made, how opportunities are created, and how people grow within HQ. Since her and I are very close,

0:49 just a little disclaimer, this probably won't be like a typical formal interview, we're going to have an honest conversation about what it's actually like to work at HQ, what makes our culture different, and why talented people, even those who have never considered the cannabis industry, might

1:07 want to become part of this industry. So, welcome to the shift, my very good friend. uh Vedrana or Vedrana or V as a lot of uh our guys like to call her. Thank you for doing this.

1:25 I'm so excited and just doing that with you. It's way better. I feel comfortable, you know, but I'm really happy to do this for HQ for us. So yeah, and this is going to be a fun chat. You and I, we go way back way like I know we shouldn't say anything wrong. That's that's that's the only thing, you

1:44 know, but other than that, it's good. Who's who's going to be the judge of what's wrong or what's not wrong? True. Um, anyhow, so before we go into some of the specific questions I prepped for you, I I want you to give me a little bit about who Vedrana is from your

2:03 perspective. Oh, wow. Okay. So, I'm someone who I'm thinking where to start. Uh because I I think what comes to mind first is someone who really I don't know if this

2:21 is relevant right but you know really enjoys spending time with their family with people who I love with people who I care about. I want to help. I want to be there. I want to experience. I'm like I'm present you know. Uh that's how I would describe myself and that's what I want to give people around me and I give

2:40 myself to things. I I just feel I grow. I feel again really really present. Want to feel everything focused on what is going on in the moment, living in the moment. So I'm typically that way and I was able to bring a lot of that personality into my work. So that's tied

2:58 to that and that's how I feel comfortable. I just feel like I'm myself. Um there's not really much of a difference between whether or not with you and uh it's maybe the topics are different. Um so I just feel comfortable in who I am now. I think you know I've done things that I proved myself that

3:16 are oh we can do things differently. I grew up in a small town and uh I ended up being in America when I was 21. It doesn't really happen. Uh you also have to figure out ways to do that. Uh so back then cuz you know we are millennials. It wasn't and everything

3:35 was served on like a short 30 second video on TikTok like how do you do things? Uh which also might not be true. Uh but we had to figure things out. I remember researching for hours cuz I had a goal. I had a dream. I was like I have to do this and I'm going to go into

3:54 talking to people who I never met before. I probably I I don't even know who they are actually. So there were people who were writing things and reading them. So you would have to trust their judgment. Then you go into the process and then you go into action and then I inform my family. And this is this is not a drag or any

4:12 type of an insult to any other generations. But we as millennials, like we've we've sort of kind of grew in this ecosystem of new and old, modern and and sort of conservative. And it's it's just we've

4:30 understood how you need to be resourceful at stuff. And I feel like that's the reason why we are successful in our jobs as well is because we are literally selfresourceful. Like we can do whatever you want. We can find whatever you want. And even if there's like no electricity, like back in the day, back in our day, we didn't have

4:48 ChatGPT. We didn't have internet all the time and stuff like that. So, we know how to find stuff out. Um, but I love the fact that you've started off with your personal um aspect and then sort of switched to to work, which I would I would say I agree.

5:06 you are a person that wants to help and I feel like that's sort of how you're known in the company as well is like if you need someone something you go to Vedrana like she knows how to do it she knows how to help she know who to contact so that's um true as true can uh be

5:25 that makes me happy you know that that's what I take back I take that energy and drives me more you know what I mean that's what I figure within myself so Yeah. Um, but going back to who Vedrana is at work a little bit more, let's let's

5:43 touch on that and go into detail. So, you work closely with our CEO and um, across multiple projects at HQ, so you're not really like one sort of thing specific like you're really everywhere. What have you learned about the company that most employees might never see um

6:03 from their own roles? Yeah. Well, working closely uh with him, I think we should just it's David I'm going to say you know how I speak. So, working closely with David uh and touching several projects at once, you see the why behind the things. Uh and I

6:23 think other people would experience that as oh things are changing. Uh I I could see the why and the brainstorming that went to into that. Um and some people depending on their department would see just their one piece uh

6:41 affected. Maybe it's AR a catalog website changing recruitment process changing. But I get to see how these pieces actually connect into one system. So to me uh what I've learned uh is and the view that I within the view that I

6:59 have, we are operations company that happens that happens to serve cannabis. M um and every process came about from someone sitting down doing their work and and they would ask themselves, okay, how do we do this better and more reliably for a client? That's how things

7:18 keep moving here. And that's the mindset usually. Um I can see from David and someone else uh let's say at the top of the company explaining to people affected the why behind the things but I probably get to see it you know in the early stages. So that's really exciting.

7:36 That's probably something that I not everyone will see entirely you know. Yeah. One one thing that you did mention which sort of stood up was uh we are after all an operations company that happens to be in cannabis. Do you feel like we would be successful such as we are in cannabis, do you feel like we would be successful in other industries

7:54 as well? Yeah, because of this mindset. Yes. So the the the point, okay, you want to do this better reliably for the client. That's you know the core. Yes, we do have more experience in cannabis. So that definitely helps. I think that's certain reliability that a client will feel and trust and so they will give us

8:14 literally you know access to all of their data uh that's needed but uh our mindset is figure out ways um solve problems be curious and because of that we would thrive in any industry for sure. Yeah, I I feel like I agree with

8:34 you because I think that what sort of um makes us different from other companies similar to what we do is the fact that we are really into exploration as you said, curiosity, which is like one of our main pillars in the company.

8:52 We want to learn more. We want to know more. And with that, the collateral often times is we're fixing stuff because we notice mistakes. and and I feel like we could be extremely um extremely successful in whatever industry you you might imagine. Um, so

9:13 when when you first joined HQ and we sort of joined at the same time approximately I think there's like a half a year a year difference but what surprised you most about the company the people and the cannabis industry itself because for me it was a very big sort of shocker and I'd like to to hear your thoughts on

9:32 that. Well in the industry you know I didn't know know much about it. I think makes sense. We are from Serbia. There's so much you can touch on that subject. I just knew something from the movies basically. I so I don't know exactly I would say the word you know surprise. I

9:52 think I just had to learn and so whatever I took as like okay this is how it is. uh I didn't have maybe that helps you know I didn't have a certain knowledge prior and uh I just came into it with like a tabula rasa, right and just start over and then you see how it goes. Um I think for the what surprised me I

10:12 would say like you know clients trusting us with uh relying on us on our industry knowledge um trusting us with literally millions of dollars moving through their systems um and because the industry it's is so

10:31 young I think uh what I've learned is there is actual room to build something and we can be the people who build it and we did it and that's how we gained that trust uh with the client. So that was something that I you know pretty early on when I joined I was able to to

10:49 understand and and I like the idea that I joined something that is still being figured out because of the industry but because being it's so young and changes a lot of times uh it's not something that's already buil been built and you're just kind of joining

11:08 and you there's not really much space to grow or like push the lines. you just have to blend in. Uh this is, you know, we figure things out as they come. You know, a new law may come in like two weeks and we're just going to uh adjust. So, you need that type of mentality when you

11:27 go come into this. So, that was surprising that it's not all set and done. This is not a 50-year-old uh you know industry with all set rules. So it requires people to be a bit more you know adjusting to things and changing processes. So that's was what as I said

11:45 I could use the word surprise but that's what I learned. One of the things that I've noticed is and and this goes across uh HQ specifically is we've obviously brought in a lot of people from different companies we used to work with uh previously and uh I just

12:05 had a conversation was like maybe a couple of days ago with a new colleague. She uh came in from another sort of corporate surrounding rather than just like a startup slashcorporate or whatever. and she um she was she was like really constantly working which is great obviously we want people like that

12:24 but at one point she has finished everything that she had to do during the day and she wasn't really sure what to do and she reached out to her manager he wasn't available at the time she's like what do I do so she literally started going through a bunch of different records just for the sake of being active online like girl look you have to

12:42 chill out this is like you don't need to be at 80% of your um what's the name of it? Hubstaff activity just like let's chillax and she's like I have never worked in a company where I there's nothing burning around me everything's like stressfree

13:00 and that's sort of what HQ brings in as well is like I've been here for what four years now almost I've never for a second was like oh my god I feel stressed I don't know what like it's very easygoing it is work requires you to be really on, you know, to to be

13:20 at your top level. But again, chill. Just chill. Because the industry is like that. Everyone in the industry is like the industry is like that. Yes. There's room for you to be yourself. Yeah. The systems are not so set that you cannot just kind of find yourself and

13:38 and express that they're not there. We have couple of rules that I would say uh that really matter to us and a lot of them go back to soft skills that I will really like to point out uh later on even but uh but there's just couple of them which do also make sense if you

13:57 don't understand you're going to get the why you really will I mean our onboarding system is very very good I'm very proud of it and you really get to see from first from the first day the people behind HQ and you get to feel their energy and how we talk and how we introduce you to work. You're going to

14:15 get a feel of, oh, this is I think this is okay. Like I can express my opinion and I can ask and I can get the answers and I can maybe not even agree with something and point that out. I I there's not an issue. And also let let's go back to the CEO. He's not an

14:34 invisible uh force and untouchable. You can reach out. I I please, you know, I really not just that he's gonna be reaching out to you constantly just so that he can bother you with a lot of different things. Well, if you get a high from him on Slack randomly, he had an idea what to

14:53 do with that. And you know, no worries. You know, that's what I told people. I the conversations are welcomed. I would say uh you know I may be the one who stops some things but only because I like I go through his priorities and I will schedule it but please it's welcome

15:12 and so that's what yeah I would say you know that also was something that surprised me within the company. I didn't work in a company that was certainly like that. Uh so it was a a welcomed change. I felt like oh I really truly can be more of myself. I don't have to come here and pretend the entire

15:31 8 hours that does help mentally you know so without that pressure I can just purely focus on tasks and I like I you know do that with enjoyment which makes a difference on the outcome I would say yeah it's it's not a fake ecosystem like

15:49 we everyone's welcome to share their thoughts we often times do have even fights like I mean I literally fought I think it was like maybe like two weeks ago I fought with Adam on a situation. Adam is our uh chief operations officer and you know uh he's a pretty chill guy but we had a disagreement bought it out like crazy.

16:07 Uh and it was on a call so it was fun. But anyhow yeah different opinions are you want to have different opinions because if you do not have different opinions then how do you grow? So it it definitely does make a lot of sense but it was a shocker for me too. Yeah. Um, let's talk a little bit about

16:27 the more sort of controversial subject when it comes to Serbia specifically and maybe Mexico as well because there is a lot of issues with people wanting to grow in their career uh generally speaking. And you know, you go to a company, you start off with a base position and then after like three years you don't get a promotion, you don't get

16:45 a compensation raise, whatever it is. And there's always that same answer which is like, oh, we just need a little bit more. this is not the time for you right now. Uh let's do this and let's grow this and let's finish this and then we can talk again. So let's let's go on that because HQ gives people opportunities to grow

17:04 beyond the position they were originally hired for which is amazing. So first that but how how's your own role evolved and what made the company trust you with bigger projects because we sort of started at like in a similar manner and we ended up being here where we are

17:22 right now. So I tell me a little bit more about that. Uh yes, you know when I look at it it's uh different. It's beyond then um the job description I received almost 3 years ago now. You know I I think you

17:40 know what I concluded from I would say my my experience and what I would say is probably applicable to a lot of people here and nobody had any bigger projects. um was just to for the sake of doing it and uh it came more from I think showing

17:58 up reliably on the smallest stuff first. I am someone you know close to David and I could be someone that he can rely on. I think one of my first questions I had an interview with him and um you know interviews with David are very

18:16 interesting so almost three years ago and I asked him because he's told me ask me questions I was like oh my god he wants me to ask questions on the interview the CEO wants you to speak great uh so I asked him how are you going to trust me and because I think that's that's a huge

18:35 part of this this whole thing I have I have his life in my I I have a lot of information. Um and that inquires to me I thought, you know, back then like I want him to trust me. I I I will do this, you know. I just how that comes to be. And then he just it seems like he just leaned in and he just

18:54 gave it to me. And then he will see throughout my actions and throughout the time that we have um how reliable I am. if he had an issue with something, he would bring it up immediately and we'll talk it out. So that's how we built it. And so I approached that with everything

19:15 in the company as I said with the smallest things, even the bigger projects. And I would take it as like I want to be reliable to a person who contacted me and asked me for something. I don't want them to double check. I want them I want them to know that I did it or I haven't done it or I'm in the process or that is usually my goal and

19:34 how I approach a task let's say. So when you build that kind of trust the scope just naturally grows and that's actually the lesson I'd give anyone starting out or even here. Uh growth here isn't um something you wait for. I think it's earned in how you handle what's already

19:54 on your plate. uh your day-to-day stuff. It's because in the industry because of our company not being so strict, not being so this is the process, this is the only way to act. You are able, there is room for you to show who you are. You either can speak to your colleague or

20:13 your team lead or as I said, you know, go to the top easily uh and you know, let your voice be heard. That's that's exactly the way. Isn't it funny that both of us had sort of a similar subject in our interviews because you said that you've asked him how can you trust me and uh on my

20:33 interview originally when I started I remember I had a very big issue with him because he did not trust me at all and I was like why are you not trustworthy with me like what's what's the what's the problem we're having here because I feel like you do not trust me at all and then uh fast forward to today we are

20:51 where we are that's So interesting. I'm in like I'm now thinking did other people have the same sort of conversation with him as well. I've heard you know a lot of the interviews he had with people. It's I don't think those people will ever forget that. No one would. Can you imagine applying

21:09 for a job? Bear in mind applying for a job and this is crazy because both you and I were telling him constantly not to do that because like he's got a lot more important things to do. But can you imagine applying for a job as like a start position, like a base position? Entry level. Yes. Entry level. And then your first interview is with the CEO of a company.

21:28 Amazing. Who does that? I don't I don't know a single company where you're going to go and is going to interview you. Yes. You know, he he cares about talent. He cares cares about people. He knows people will change. People will do the change.

21:46 We welcome. We can get into this but you know the AI and using it in your work for sure it's welcomed it's encouraged in our company uh it's people who will make the change you drive it you have the vision you have the passion that's that's what he cares about he wants to see it he connects

22:04 to that excites him and I want him to do what excites him as well so I I did you know um let's let's call it approved it and I was like Okay. You know, go talk to people, go talk to talent, and go find people. That's such an excitement

22:23 for him. And he's good at it. He's very good at it. Yeah. And now, now that you did mention that, I'm interested because you've obviously heard a lot of these conversations. You know, a lot of people in the company, what type of person genuinely thrives at HQ? And what type of person probably wouldn't enjoy working here? And I want you to be specific about stuff like tell me if you

22:43 like this, this, or that, you're not going to enjoy being here. or if you like this this or that you're going to love I I I think I could say overall um if you are curious and can control your ego or low ego uh people it's

23:01 people who will ask you know why does this process exist uh they will thrive here instead of maybe you know complaining about it and also they're keeping things to themselves and also people who need constant handholding to figure things out. We are

23:22 you know remote company and you have to be someone who communicates clearly and follows through without st someone standing over you. M um and I want to go back to my point in the world where you know AI can do more and more of the technical repeatable work that's the go whole game now the

23:41 people who thrive anywhere not just here are the ones with strong soft skills uh judgment communication ownership care um emotional intelligence

23:59 someone who wants to just execute a task and disappear, who doesn't want to understand the bigger picture or work with people, that person probably won't love it here. You know, we are small enough that everyone's work actually touches everyone's else's.

24:19 Mhm. Those people. Um so yes this is coming from all the interviews I've seen all the things that I've seen and you know as you know as well how we how we operate daily here and you know understand again really understanding the why and connecting to it and

24:39 bringing a lot of yourself into work if you enjoy that if there are some people that I know personally that really enjoy set set of rules that they will follow for 8 hours a day and do that repeatedly and they're really happy with that and that's we're probably not the ones for

24:58 you. You have to figure that thing inside yourself and we probably have a good very good recruitment uh you know process that we will find that out for you uh whether early you know early stages or interview with the CEO or within obviously first two weeks you

25:17 know of you being here it does come out you have to be yourself so you you people will see it um so I think that you know comes down to to that u if it's one word I would say curiosity but just focus on soft

25:35 skills we care about people here and care about talent um but again you can be someone who that's you know admirable that you can you just follow the rules and be very you know ABC and you really thrive in that and a lot of industries also

25:53 welcome that. So really that's kind of the difference between who would thrive here and who wouldn't. Gotcha. Um and I want to explore something now with you and and I feel like we're going to do this together because I have my own thoughts about this as well.

26:11 If someone's if someone talented, right, is watching this podcast, this video, but knows very little about cannabis, why should they consider building a career at HQ and in this industry specifically? I have my own thoughts as well, so I'm going to let you go first and then we

26:29 can piggy back. Right. I would say, you know, you don't have to know anything about cannabis to start. Uh the only thing that I would say from here is like it's it's a young industry still being built. So you are definitely not walking into a set of

26:47 rules that are years and years, you know, uh old and there's a a strict playbook. You can actually shape how things get done. At our company, there's enough room for you to uh kind of work direct. First of all, you're going to work directly with real US clients, real

27:06 data, real money moving through systems and that's really early on right away. You're going to, you know, be in that situation. Uh you so through that you will understand the cannabis and the products and the rules and the laws. But beyond that, you don't have to know much

27:24 more. uh what you need to be is sharp, reliable, good with people. Everything I've said above and the cannabis part we will teach you and you will be exposed to it every day and that's how you will learn of course something that's repeatable daily repeatable task. Uh the soft

27:44 skills part that's on you and that's the part that actually decides how far you will go here or anywhere. M you know, one of the things that I feel like is extremely important that a lot of people do not understand is, you know what I hate the most? When I open up

28:02 LinkedIn and I'm going through job uh posts and uh job opportunities and there's always a segment within a job opportunity or a job role, whatever it is, that says benefits. And then in the benefits they list out um great compensation. They list out

28:23 days off during uh a year. Um they list gym membership or something stupid like that. And because of that, I feel like you know what? H doesn't offer any of those benefits. We don't have benefits. Let's just start there. We don't have

28:41 benefits. all of the things that you sort of read there are already included in the role because that's that should not be a benefit. That should be an actual part of your job. Like you want to work somewhere where you're paid quite well. Yes. Which for us this is pretty good.

28:59 Um second of all, you want to be able to take a day off, a week off, two weeks off, even like go on a sabbatical, whatever. That should be allowed. It's not a benefit. It's part it's part of your job. It's normal. Absolutely. And then uh what is the last thing that they often times say? Uh it's

29:18 like an opportunity to grow. Yes. That's not that's not a benefit that should be included. And I feel like extremely important for us to understand is like if that's really the case, we do not offer any benefits. This is all standard. This is included. You're going to get all of this. So, if you're

29:37 looking for benefits such as, I don't know, gym memberships or whatever, go somewhere else. But if you're looking to really want to make good money and grow and learn something new, but also show and teach other people as well, yes, come on over. Um, you will you will make a change. you

29:55 know, we shaped the well, specifically as I said, we ended up, you know, being in the cannabis industry, but the way we moved and with the mindset like you can change things out. It doesn't have to be these strict rules that, you know, in a lot of industries, you still can make those changes. And now with AI, I think

30:14 a lot of industries would be like, okay, you know, you can think do things differently. But in cannabis specifically, that's all you have to know that it's there is opportunity to build something. You will be You you definitely will be proud of yourself. I I you you know I want you to come out of this you know even from after the week that was like oh it was really heavy

30:33 your workload was a lot but you know we did I did something and someone acknowledged that as well I I am I feel I feel proud I feel good about myself. I want to stay in environment that I'm helpful, where I'm helpful, where people notice that and tell me that. And this

30:52 is not that I'm not, you know, talking not talking about money. Of course, I am. And we are remote company, so you know, there you go. You don't have to really go to work. You don't have to, you know, stand in the rain at 7:00 a.m. waiting for the bus. Cool. Yeah, it's a benefit. Um, it's part of it a part of our job.

31:10 And sorry, let me cut you off very quickly. And the two people that probably use this benefit the most are you and me. Like how many times did it have like what we're working where are you? I'm at the cafe. Filip, where are you? I'm on the beach. Where are you? I'm It's literally we're This is like we do not and this is another thing that is

31:29 extremely important for people is like because there's a lot of parents out there that are tending to their kids and need a job that they're not required to go to work. And it's like but obviously we use a different way. Um we do not we don't we do not invite people to come over and work from an office like we it's like fully remote work and

31:49 you have to be ready to take responsibility for that and be disciplined but also you can leverage it like you can work if you feel like you can work from I don't know a basement yard or or if you want to go to a park sure go for it as long as it's you know it's not influencing your work. Yeah, we don't, you know, bother with that. It's a really small detail because

32:08 we just need you. Just be sharp, come focused, present, curious. We just need you and however you can give that to us, that's it. That's true. Cuz that's what I liked about, you know, being here again, authenticity, you know, right?

32:26 Just comes back to that comes back to people. Uh so there's not just one way of um of having a company or you know having a successful company. There's just not one way. Uh I can understand that there are a couple of things that we can say

32:46 across the board would be helpful that every company has and follows. Uh, as I said, some people really like the rules and really really want to, you know, have that all and read them and then act that way. I get it works for some. This is just another way that also works. If

33:04 you have a just a different mindset of you lived differently, you did something in your life that was out of ordinary, out of, you know, not everyone in your family did something, not everyone, you know, your friends did did it that way. Um, you will like it, you know, cuz you already had that foundation. you you think differently and you're not afraid

33:23 to show that express that that's definitely some this is definitely something that will like work well for you makes sense and that's you know what I have to do I have to tell you like David gave me an audible uh so a book to to listen to that is

33:44 just amazing that's like that's kind of part of my work right part of my work it's amazing and but this is where he goes to and I am so grateful when I read it. I finished it. I'm like I'm so inspired. Right. It's what's the book? What are you The Gatekeepers? So, it's about the

34:02 chief of staff in every uh presidency since like 1970. It's amazing. It's amazing. He sees me in that way which you know love. And uh I was able to learn so much and you know how they did things cuz I'm just so obsessed like

34:21 how do you do the process within the White House? How does the president know what he focuses on every day? It's from people around him. It's from literally chief of staff. I'm so impressed. Like the but you see David's brain to connect this and and me. I love it. I It's so It's different.

34:41 It's not a typical company in a way that you know as I said really bland rules. No, you really, you know, this job will affect you. It will probably some of the things that I've learned I, you know, I applied into my private life. I've

34:59 discussed this with some couple of people in the company. This is true for a lot of people and especially if you work closely with him. You know, I would say he did uh he's a driving force. he did, you know, start this and he will not tell you like he did it alone. Like obviously he did it with people who are here for a really long time and he

35:18 respects them and I understand that but it's he is the driving force. He sets that tone and then we just kind of get into that passion and to that energy and we just kind of push it along, you know. So that's how I usually see it. It's I really like it here. I enjoy it. Um, you know, if you

35:39 get to come, you're going to work with us. Here's Filip. Here's me. No, just kidding. But, you know, people like this are here usually and you will, you know, get to see us, get to work with us. You will find some en enjoyment doing your daily tasks, which I understand can be, you know, rough sometimes. Uh, but

35:58 you'll find a reason, you know, why why to show up. So, no, it makes sense completely. and uh having your CEO give you uh an audible to as a part of your task about uh chiefs of staff of the White House is everything. Uh Vedrana, where can people

36:18 find you in Belgrade? Uh now, so I I walk all the time. You guys will see me. I probably walk like I don't know for how like every day about like 10 kilometers minimum. No. um either at a cafe or you know having matcha and now seriously

36:36 yeah you can you know Instagram is probably you know something that I use obviously for fun. Uh I do TikTok as well you know because I love I'm a foodie so I love to film that. Um my Instagram name is very embarrassing. It's oh Angel Cake because you know

36:54 years ago I just wanted to post food on there and then I you know I did post myself a bit so just to change it. Uh and yeah but you know within the company um I'll be one of the people that you will you know probably get early contact. Yes. I mean and you know when you come in you

37:14 know when you join uh you know you'll get to see me in your first onboarding week. I did you know I was part of the process and created a couple of courses that will help you learn about HQ and um you will you know it'll get you going. you you don't have to ask people for things for small things you will get it explained you will feel more comfortable

37:33 I understand you're coming into a new environment so we'll make it easy for you as as easy as possible um so you'll get to see me then for sure you know first week come join us and uh Filip you will know about Filip you see Filip everywhere and watching the uh podcast H's podcast

37:53 the shift is a mandatory thing that you need to do while onboarding and while working here otherwise Glad you said that. I'm glad you said that. So, those are, you know, a couple of rules in the company. That's one of them. Go watch our podcast and learn something, you know. Yeah. You get to feel the energy of people working here, you know. So, I'm really excited to post more like

38:12 on our Instagram, like to really post more about us. Uh we'll get to hang out soon. Um a couple of us. So, you know, uh we'll keep you posted on what we do. You'll be aware of where we're headed and what we're doing. So, yeah, we should do vlogs. Oh, yeah, definitely.

38:32 Uh, thank you so very much. This was amazing. And, uh, honestly, it's so weird that we didn't do this before, but I mean, it's like we've, you know, we've know each other so well and so close that it's like this, you know, um, probably never came to our minds. Anyhow, thank you again once more for being part of this this shift. Uh, and I

38:52 will see you on the shift. You see what I did there? Let's see where they Oh, wow. It's brilliant. You know, this is what HQ does to you.